tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post3845908684103647439..comments2023-06-14T05:57:07.364-04:00Comments on THE STRAND BLOG: ANOTHER THING PEOPLE OF FORT ERIE DON'T TALK ABOUTAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16495038420778835026noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-11438065905445504482018-09-28T04:43:05.409-04:002018-09-28T04:43:05.409-04:00You're right. It is not just four people. Fort...You're right. It is not just four people. Fort Erie is a dump. Many locals are part of the the welfare and trailer trash social club. And the irony is, is they're low education means they think highly of themselves when anyone from anywhere else in the Niagara region thinks what a sh*the ole.James. Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-54880836265848067862014-07-09T13:48:36.703-04:002014-07-09T13:48:36.703-04:00 Sppedway Neighbour, I met the old guy at the gate... Sppedway Neighbour, I met the old guy at the gate that would not admit me through the gates. A few people were cutting grass. He told me there was a seasonal staff between 70-100 depending on the event running. I could however go to their town hall and get a permit for $25 to drive my own car on the track after 5pm (Mon-Fri) while following a pace car. WOW!!!!taxpayernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-48992031864292628342014-07-09T11:45:31.681-04:002014-07-09T11:45:31.681-04:00Amen, Taxpayer, amen.
A question for you; when yo...Amen, Taxpayer, amen.<br /><br />A question for you; when you went to Watkins Glen (one of the oldest and most famous motor racing facilities in North America, original site of the U. S. Formula 1 Grand Prix) on a club day, roughly how many track employees could you count?Sppedway Neighbournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-30407718132675423412014-07-08T18:00:22.963-04:002014-07-08T18:00:22.963-04:00Let's not overlook the fact that this CMS deve...Let's not overlook the fact that this CMS development will cost the taxpayers plenty to get those "precious" seasonal jobs. The council has already set aside a lot of the development fees and qualified the CMS location for the Community Improvement Plan (CIP), which effectively sets aside a large portion of the increased commercial tax rate that would be payable by CMS when the zoning changes from the current agricultural rate for up to 10 years. Include the installment of a trunk water main irresistibly close to the speedway site a few years ago.<br /><br />CMS just wants to set the stage, with this new MOU with NC, to show the provincial, local and regional governments that CMS's ask for 60 million for infrastructure upgrades to build this fabulous project should be granted. <br /><br />And it won't stop there. The Town could provide a lot of comparable seasonal, low wage jobs for years for the cash CMS wants from taxpayers.<br /><br />I have been to Watkins Glen on car club day--no one is admitted except club members, no concessions are open, no tourists come, few staff are required, only noise is made.<br /><br />Remember CMS's flashy presentation at Town Hall? The one were they told us they had pots of cash? OOPS they forgot to tell us they expected we, the taxpayers, to keep digging in our not so deep pockets.taxpayernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-89214932218199823172014-07-08T14:27:14.347-04:002014-07-08T14:27:14.347-04:00I have a friend who lives in the small town of Bro...I have a friend who lives in the small town of Brooklyn, Michigan, the home of a real NASCAR speedway. She says that on race days, the town is in gridlock. Locals stay off the roads on race day if they're not involved with the track. Can we expect that here?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495038420778835026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-57639895621396448912014-07-08T14:18:47.201-04:002014-07-08T14:18:47.201-04:00Che, if, indeed, CMS manages to hook up with a ma...Che, if, indeed, CMS manages to hook up with a major sanctioning body, something they do not have at all right now, then a few times a year we will get a lot of people showing up with fully stocked coolers and generators for their campsites, or just staying in Niagara Falls hotels. The Fort Erie gas stations might get a bit of extra business from those who do not know cheaper gas is available right across the border. Other than that, not much for the town besides a lot of congestion and noise. Even this is a lot less likely since CMS quietly downsized the plans for the oval from one mile to 3/4 mile, taking it out of the major leagues. The only things that are currently sure to happen are the same sort of non-spectator events that happen every day of the week at places like Mosport and Calabogie, which generate a full dose of noise but virtually no economic activity. I'm not even sure the local Saturday Night stock car drivers would want to use this track, because it would require different gearing and tuning from the Humberstones of the area. <br />By the way, I forgot to mention before re sharia law that there will be no pork products allowed on site either.<br />I can't get a handle on what the business plan actually is, unless it is a land assembly for some other purpose. This whole thing was approved by the Town on a combination fantasy of NASCAR and McMaster, both of which are right now out of the picture.Speedway Neighbournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-86908244058094478732014-07-08T12:36:52.307-04:002014-07-08T12:36:52.307-04:00The number of jobs is debatabe. The 4000 figure so...The number of jobs is debatabe. The 4000 figure sounds like perhaps something Tim Hudak's mathematician came up with. But certainly jobs will in fact be created. More importantly though, many thousands of people will be drawn to our area which will provide opportunities. It's up to entrepreneurs to take advantage pf it. The job of government is not to provide jobs but to create opportunities and that is exactly what the CMS is.Chenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-62476772156102554752014-07-08T11:02:10.483-04:002014-07-08T11:02:10.483-04:00Thank you, Corruption Fighter, for mentioning the ...Thank you, Corruption Fighter, for mentioning the cost sharing of the Bowen Road overpass. Efforts were made over a year ago to convince Councillor Hill that this was coming, and that support for this should be accompanied by a LOT of questions; unfortunately Hill has bought into the R&D propaganda. The news about Niagara College was interesting, and provides some cover for CMS when the McMaster connection was proving to be very thin. Still, there weren't really any promises of jobs there, and any activity by Niagara College students at the track other than the "hospitality" functions is going to have to stay out of the way of the daily track rentals to the Corvette club, Mustang club, Porsche club, Ducati motorcycle club and the "Driver Experience" venture (drive around the oval track in a race car pretending to be your favourite NASCAR driver).<br />To be fair, there would certainly be a number of construction jobs, perhaps a thousand or so, but absolutely temporary. The same number of construction jobs on that site could be generated by building a solar generating farm.<br />The last point I always try to get in is that the several names that have been announced over the years as the financiers for the project have been Islamic banks with strict policies that their investments should be compliant with sharia law, which means among a lot of other things that there would be no alcohol or tobacco allowed anywhere on site, including the large campgrounds. How that fits in with any established North American motor racing activities is completely beyond me.Speedway Neighbournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-61259817832958884002014-07-08T08:33:03.429-04:002014-07-08T08:33:03.429-04:00I could not find your previous post. Try sending i...I could not find your previous post. Try sending it again. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495038420778835026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-21887133211527100592014-07-08T01:13:58.287-04:002014-07-08T01:13:58.287-04:00you put this up but not my last one, so the questi...you put this up but not my last one, so the question still remains the same.4FortErienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-67410580889309890862014-07-07T21:43:32.872-04:002014-07-07T21:43:32.872-04:00So Sharon, tell me please
Are you not allowing m...So Sharon, tell me please <br /><br />Are you not allowing my last post on your site because you have inadvertently missed it or is it true where I have read on FB that you only allow posts that are in agreement with what you have to say and as such makes this stie bias<br /><br />I read this because I am trying to educate myself on what is happening in our town and I find SOME of your commenters to be of worth, others, nt<br />ot so much. However by not allowing my last post it says to me that your site is defiantly bias and I would really like to not believe it<br /><br />I did have a different perspective on some of your commenters posts but in no way was I so outlandish or vulgar as this corruption fighter person.<br /><br />So what gives ?4FortErienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-56095429694200141072014-07-07T17:06:18.026-04:002014-07-07T17:06:18.026-04:00The answer is actually quite simple. The owner of ...The answer is actually quite simple. The owner of the property sold it, as is their right. If you are suggesting that the Town should have stepped in to block the sale, well we have enough lawsuits in this town already. The reason for the sale ("slap in the face") is immaterial. They owned it and had the right to sell it. Any business person would have been crazy not to given the circumstances.<br /><br />Chenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-47727814889771940832014-07-07T16:35:51.009-04:002014-07-07T16:35:51.009-04:00Speedway Neighbour.....do you remember dirty dougi...Speedway Neighbour.....do you remember dirty dougies full page ad in the then Dube propaganda Times, claiming FOUR THOUSAND jobs between the Not4Nascar and the proposed Miller Creek project.....<br /><br />Thats right FOUR THOUSAND !! <br /><br /> WTF doesnt even begin to describe this massive self serving LIE. <br /><br /> If built, the CMS will alter life here to our collective detriments forever( noise , pollution, trash, etc), will cost huge tax $$ in local incentives( like the cost sharing of the Bowen Rd overpass ETC) All of which will be within a couple miles of most of the town. And for what....... for a hand full of mostly part time jobs and very temporary bragging rights for our 2 idiots er leaders of business and politics.<br /><br />OUTSTANDING JOB DOUGIE n JIMMIE !! nothing gives me more pleasure than giving my hard earned tax $$$ to you 2 wastes of space.<br /><br />Truly YOUR messed up self serving FOCUS is destroying all of OUR FUTURE!! (gotta love that town motto, someone has a very dry sense of humour)CorruptionFighternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-24205127887714222622014-07-07T16:02:02.292-04:002014-07-07T16:02:02.292-04:00Editor's Note: This comment was sent in earlie...<b>Editor's</b> Note: This comment was sent in earlier by <b>Speedway Neighbour:</b><br /><br />Sharon, as to your point about Fort Erie children moving away, I recall when that was used as a sales point for approving the Canadian Motor Speedway. They painted a rosy picture of hundreds of Fort Erie young people making careers at home out of great full-time research jobs. Unfortunately it ain't gonna happen, even if CMS does eventually get built. Despite the promises of a McMaster satellite campus at CMS, there is no current evidence that this is in the works. Instead, like every other motor racing facility in North America, CMS will have about a dozen full-time employees, tops. the young people might pick up the occasional gig parking cars or flipping hot dogs. <br /><br /><b>Further to that:</b><br /><br />Announced today: <a href="http://bulletnewsniagara.ca/index.php?p=Sections&id=1746%22" rel="nofollow">Speedway Plans to Partner with Niagara College</a><br /><br />At least the kids flipping burgers will be college students.Speedway Neighbournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-1109412230270600932014-07-07T15:37:19.942-04:002014-07-07T15:37:19.942-04:00@enter your comment
What exactly is the " rep...@enter your comment<br />What exactly is the " reputation " of Ray Murray ??<br /><br />Let's get the facts out there!<br /><br />And don't forget your real name when bashing someoneBill Tealnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-69733163822549053152014-07-07T15:18:41.658-04:002014-07-07T15:18:41.658-04:00A very very good question! Who was asleep at the s...A very very good question! Who was asleep at the switch to allow a parking asset to the beach to slip away. Was it a deliberate fare thee well slap in the face. Where was the voice of Councillors ,staff and Mayor when this property became available.cokiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03815562682957993229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-55159085213566609092014-07-07T09:49:22.003-04:002014-07-07T09:49:22.003-04:00``Clean and friendly along the front, strange forb...``Clean and friendly along the front, strange forbidding broken along the back. Not unlike the political system here``.......<br /><br /> EXACTLY !!!.....thank you Eric C.<br /><br />This town needs a huge shake up from 1 end to the other. No more dirty dougies screwing us for himself and his like minded cronies at the Chamber,. No more status quo and overspending like Wayne. <br /><br />The next mayor and council start off by just cleaning up dirty dougies doings (massive pile of crap actually) and repairing the rip down the middle as evidenced by people like ``4 FortErie`` with his hatred of CB, likely because he wasnt allowed to profit by the attempted Great Rape of Bay Beach. <br /><br />So much for those oh so civic minded Molinaro`s there Peter K,. Did they even give the town a chance to purchase the CB parking lot. I doubt it. You can remove your lips from their a$$ anytime. You are not allowed to bugger us all for your bank account, no matter how low you stoop.CorruptionFighternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-82933887005257630712014-07-06T21:46:41.168-04:002014-07-06T21:46:41.168-04:00Thanks for the link. Will check it out. Thanks for the link. Will check it out. Sharon Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-43793862680330792182014-07-06T21:12:07.725-04:002014-07-06T21:12:07.725-04:004 Fort Erie as many posts show read a little of th...4 Fort Erie as many posts show read a little of the content, make a few broad stroke observations, and generally support the view they thought they were opposing. To get back to the subject, teen girls have children. The system will pay a girl like that a lot, the more they have, with the right paperwork the more money they get. Its that simple. Crystal meth beach as its known among some is no example of the system gone wrong. If its any comfort, there are places much worse for that type of dependence on the system. To try to suggest living a few miles east of Ridge road makes life sweeter might be true. Check out some of the rental propertys above the storefronts on the MAIN STREET of town, Jarvis I think they call it. Drive slowly through that back alley on a cold winter night, and look up at those rentals. The rentals in the top floors of the buildings, lining the main street of what used to be the down town, before strip malls and Walmart became your new downtown, along the "number 3 ". The garbage, hungry angry dogs on chains barking at friends and strangers alike, potholes, abandoned cars, like some movie set, except it isnt. Its the back of the downtown. Clean and friendly along the front, strange, forbidding, and broken in the back. Not unlike the political system here. Eric C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-63572703449498619522014-07-06T18:28:13.976-04:002014-07-06T18:28:13.976-04:00that is the most ridiculous broad statement ever. ...that is the most ridiculous broad statement ever. Teen pregnancy happens all over the world, not just Crystal Beach and Fort Erie, wow give your head a shake on this one.<br /><br />You want to know what young people think about CB, it is pretty evident when you actually talk to them and I will take from a post I recently read that sums it up pretty well<br /><br />"trust me when I tell you that you aren't attracting young families except the few like me looking for big house for cheap cash. And cb is a joke as a young person you know what cb is known for?? Drugs drugs and more drugs every teen stealing there grandmas meds and selling them, its sad. A friend purchased a home there and trust me when your young cb is a shithole, the older folk just don't see through the same glasses. And that's not to be offensive, he is already trying to sell cause he has a young son and hates it....wants to be in FE proper like myself , which is actually a nice town.<br /><br />Right from the mouths of your future generation! You want CB to grow, then clean up your neighbourhood. <br /><br />Bonnie good luck to your Niece. We all do not share the same opinions posted on here, especially this last bunch of bologna, and I happen to know many CB youth who have gone on to be well educated and have well paying jobs, some of which even had children young4FortErienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-14951582252420846752014-07-06T17:37:10.623-04:002014-07-06T17:37:10.623-04:00I didn't say that it was a cause. I said that ...I didn't say that it was a cause. I said that is a result (or a a symptom)Chenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-29383538964462109072014-07-06T16:30:20.266-04:002014-07-06T16:30:20.266-04:00No one ever mentions the huge debt load our Town i...No one ever mentions the huge debt load our Town is carrying, it doubled since Mayor Martin took office, we could have started off with a clean slate if we had used our slot revenues to pay that off, we only pay the interest . never paid one dime on the debt in over 44 years. The day will come when the Ontario government puts in an Administrator to run our finance dept, for many years Doug Martins Father in-law and Doug Martin ran our Finance Dept, that to me is why we are in dire straights, Redekop is useless in handling our problems. We need a councillor with back bone,and read the riot act to these dimwits ASAP.Porgeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-17768564285062853702014-07-06T13:25:29.656-04:002014-07-06T13:25:29.656-04:00His reputation preceeds him, surprised you know no...His reputation preceeds him, surprised you know nothing about him. Ask around, you'll get an eye opener.enter your commentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-83763372792600549422014-07-06T13:09:28.501-04:002014-07-06T13:09:28.501-04:00I've given "Bonnie" a pass as she ad...I've given "Bonnie" a pass as she adds nothing to the conversation except her limited world view. What I write here is my opinion, based on observation and many years of research into politics and social trends. The Teen Mom phenomenon is not exclusive to Fort Erie. It just happens to be more noticeable in smaller communities. I wish I could get the actual stats on teen pregnancy in Fort Erie to look for patterns and perhaps offer some suggestions. <br /><br />I was one of many who fought for women's rights back in the 1970s and it annoys me that some young women are throwing away the opportunities so hard fought for to become teenaged moms. Birth control, legal abortions, jobs traditionally held by men only and equal pay are the result of a lot of hard work on behalf of women's rights. Maybe classes in school should include the history of women's rights. I took such an enlightening course from Cornell several years ago. <br /><br />Canada has been ahead of the US in this regard, another reason I chose to live here. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495038420778835026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734542855080671064.post-53263983703825056722014-07-06T12:54:26.175-04:002014-07-06T12:54:26.175-04:00I have no opinion about Ray Murray because I know ...I have no opinion about Ray Murray because I know next to nothing about this guy. Let's see what he's got to say. Couldn't be any worse than John Teal, the empty suit in an empty chair at Regional Council. Just like he was as mayor of Fort Erie. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16495038420778835026noreply@blogger.com